Wednesday, January 16, 2008

The Emergent Church (Part 1)

Yesterday several of us PCA pastors met for prayer at one of the other PCA churches in the KC area. We got to talking about the "Emerging" or "Emergent" Church phenomena that is currently happening.

I recommend D.A. Carson's book, Becoming Conversant with the Emerging Church, for a solid understanding of what is happening in this movement that predominantly attracts twenty-somethings right now.

Over the next couple of weeks I will provide various posts that give explanation of this movement, of course, with commentary.

This first video is an introduction for you to get a feel for what an "Emergent Church" is.

8 comments:

Frontier Forest said...

Wasn’t too long ago when I heard very popular local pastor here in our area, interviewing a summer intern make this statement. “We have a mix of conservatives and liberals at this church. Those of us in ministry must be careful not to offend either side. As leaders, our position must be the “Via Media” approach to ministry.” Via Media means riding the fence, right in the middle, standing for what is popular, defending bad change for the forsaking of good tradition. John the Beloved addressed this same issue in Revelations 3:15-16. “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are like lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I WILL vomit you out of MY mouth.”

Andrew Malloy said...

Ha,

One guys says, "Why don't we just be ourselves?" Yes, let us worship how we want to...COUGH, golden calf, COUGH!

Altars, I thought Jesus was our sacrifice...

Mark Davis said...

I guess it's no coincidence that the video segment ended with somebody walking their dog through the communion line. Wonder what what Tone Loc will have to say about that?

As in all things, imbalance usually leads to error. We need to find the legitimate motivation, in such discussions, recognize opportunities to either lift up or gently challenge our brothers and sisters as they (like us) attempt to live according to their faith, and resist the desire to hastily condemn our Lord's servants.

Rick Calohan said...

I would think the other local Kansas City PCA churches that hold contemporary or blended style services would be concerned that they would be lumped together with this Emergent movement, which I know they are not. I can attest that when I attend Oak Hills and visited New Hope, I knew that they held firm to sound doctrine of Reform Theology and it is my belief they still do. What concerns me about the churches in the video is that to me they were a mainline contemporary or non-denominational churches to which hold no doctrinal standards, creeds, or sound theology.

AJF said...

Mark, I agree with your sentiment. Personally, I won't "hastily" do anything regarding this movement. I'm still trying to figure it out. So far I am very concerned about the utter lack of doctrinal moorings. It isn't a style issue first, it's a doctrinal matter. I will post more to explain where these folks are coming from.

malcolm said...

There is no doubt that this type of worship is tempting because we don't get out of our comfort zone and it makes us feel good. They are probably quite "emotionally" uplifted after a 45 minute set of upbeat music.
There was a very dangerous remark early in the video and I encourage everyone to go back and listen to it. This guy said, "we twist and turn things to give them a NEW MEANING". I am sure these people consider themselves reformists and may offer a real gateway ministry for seekers. But when you get back to the true reformation it was Luther driving home the original truths and getting away from the "twisting and turning" that had been done by the church.
Like you, Tony, I hold off until I see more, but my first reaction is comparing it to what has recently happened with Willow Creek, that they are not serving the mature believer. And, Tony, to your credit, I remember you preaching on more that one occasion on subjects that made us uncomfortable...as recently as last Sunday. I guess my hope is that the unchurched or new believers are drawn to this type of worship and will grow into a greater understanding.

rgmann said...

I’m not trying to be too “hasty” either, but I have to admit that as I watched this video clip I had the same feeling I get when listening to fingernails scrapping down a chalk board! Maybe it’s all the gray coming into my beard that’s getting me like this -- who knows?

Seriously, though, any religious “movement” based more upon feeling and emotion than sound doctrinal convictions can only lead to disaster. Unfortunately this might be the case with the emergent church movement -- “Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: ‘The Lord knows those who are His’” (2 Tim. 2:19). But I need to learn more about it, so I’m looking forward to your upcoming posts.

Hough said...

Tell the truth, you saw that someone brought their dog to church at the end of that video and that is why you are so against this movement. Jest.