Thursday, July 17, 2008

Proposed McDonald's Boycott?

I've never really participated in boycott's like the one proposed by the American Family Association targetting McDonald's. They are clear about the reason for the proposed boycott-

What the boycott of McDonald's IS NOT about
-This boycott is not about hiring homosexuals.
- It is not about homosexuals eating at McDonald's.
- It is not about how homosexual employees are treated.

What the boycott of McDonald's IS about
It is about McDonald's, as a corporation, refusing to remain neutral in the culture wars. McDonald's has chosen not to remain neutral but to give the full weight of their corporation to promoting the homosexual agenda, including homosexual marriage.

I rarely eat at McDonald's, but my kids love Chicken McNugget's and we'll pick up a bunch from time to time. I can almost throw a rock and hit a McDonald's restaurant close to my house. We see the golden arches regularly. Health reasons aside, should I boycott? Do such boycott's really work? What about boycotting all the other major corporations who promote a homosexual agenda? Where does it end?

I'm curious about the opinions of Reepicheep's astute and highly intelligent readership concerning this proposed boycott -Rick, you're only allowed a one paragraph response :) .


grj said...

I haven't eaten at a McDonalds in a long time but I am for confronting, boycotting, and standing firm in our faith to oppose agenda's that openly and flagrantly disavow Almighty God and His Holy Law.

I believe that when we become aware of corporation's suppport and financing of agenda's contrary to God and His commands we should definitely not give them any money (that is really God's) that we are steward's of (see Crown Ministries small group study and Holy Scripture).

I believe that this also relates to our Christian worldview study.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Tony,

This is my first time commenting on your blog. My wife and I have come to Redeemer a couple of times recently (we're in the process of finding a new church), and I have been reaidng your blog to get a sense of where you and Redeemer stand on certain issues.

As to the question, per the AFA's rationale, the AFA is upset about McDonalds, a private company, taking sides in the culture wars. Why must McDonalds remain neutral? Neutrality is a fine thing for governments, but why is it imperative that companies remain neutral? I am not defending "pride" parades and what not, but just questioning the rationale.

This also reminds me of the Disney boycott of a few years back. It didn't seem to work (some one can correct me if I am wrong...didn't they call the boycott off?),and it probably did harm to the perception that many unbeliving Americans have of conservative Protestants. Like it or not, we get labled homophobic all the time. Usually it is applied unfairly, but boycotting all things gay probably doesn't help our witness in the community.

In Christ,


Wayne said...

I make personal decisions as to where I shop and who I patronize and refuse to participate in organized boycotts. The people hurt most by boycotts are the weakest members of the targeted organization. The single mother behind the counter who depends on this job will be hurt long before the faceless moguls in the boardroom.

Rick Calohan said...

In keeping with the one paragraph rule, when Senators Dayton (family owns TARGET Corporation) and Kohl (family owns KOHL’s Department Store) voted against ending Partial-Birth Abortion in the Senate on December 17, 2003, I have not stepped foot in either stores and both stores are still in business. As for McDonald’s leaning towards a pro-homosexuality lifestyle agenda or corporations trying to convince us to go green or cable companies offering pornography on television, internet, cell phones et cetera or newspapers promoting hedonistic delights is all about the world around us. Christ did not call us to avoid the world but to engage it, and as you have said, recently in a sermon not to long ago until the churches reform themselves from within how do you expect to reform the culture. Remembering what John Calvin wrote “We are not our own: let not our reason nor our will, therefore, sway our plans and deeds. We are not our own: let us, therefore, not set it as our goal to seek what is expedient for us according to the flesh. We are not our own: in so far as we can, let us, therefore, forget ourselves and all that is ours. Conversely, we are God’s: let us, therefore, live for Him and die for Him. We are God’s: let His wisdom and will, therefore, rule all our actions. We are God’s: let all the parts of our life, accordingly, strive toward Him as our only lawful goal.” Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion (1539)

AliGirl said...

My husband and I have talked about like issues with Starbucks, who donates 15% of its proceeds to abortion clinics. I was too cheap to indulge in Starbucks very often anyway, but the thought of 60 cents of every over-priced latte aiding murder makes me want to cry.

There's a huge difference in loving a person who is sinning in homosexuality and promoting and supporting gay pride. A privately owned company can do whatever its stockholders want, but this is terribly sad.

I don't know how much I'm for it, since it usually brings more negative publicity to the boycotter than the company boycotted (ie, Disney), but the upside of national boycotts is that a personal boycott isn't going to affect anything except the boycotter's conscience (sorry Rick, I've been unknowingly keeping Target afloat since your boycott). Hopefully a large AFA boycott would make corporate bigwigs and investors think twice about what they are supporting instead of just writing the boycotters off as just religious fanatic homophobs who need to step into the 21st century. But I'm sure they'll only do the latter, because stereotyping is much easier than thinking. Another good thing about it is that I am now aware of the issue, and otherwise I wouldn't be.

Have the brothers Felich tried Wendy's? Much better chicken nuggets, and hello... Frosties?!?

Rick Creecy said...

I think a few points need to be considered when decideing to throw one's lot in with this boycott:

1) If we are to boycott McDonald's because they support gay rights, then should we not also boycott them and other stores for supporting other sins? In the eyes of God are not all sins equal (James 2:10)? Buy purchasing a somewhat tasteless (not a fan of McDonald's food) Big Mac are we condoning homosexuality? So buy (get it?) purchasing gasoline do we share in the blood that was spilt by a radical despot that supplied us with the oil?

2) Which is worse: A homosexual person or a murderer? A murderer or a thief? A thief or that guy that cuts you off on the highway? Then if this is true then we should not, and by logic of this boycott it is, purhcase anything from any store, vendor, distributer because all have fallen short of the Glory of God (Romans 3:23); and by purchasing their goods you share in their sins.

3) If eating at McDonald's causes you as a Christian to stumble, because with every ketchup soaked bite you choke down support of homosexuality then a more close examination of your heart is indeed needed. We are to go forth in to the world as salt and light (Matthew 5:13-16) confronting the world, not retreating financially from it. We are not to be cloistered in our Churches, but out in the trenches bravely laying siege to the gates of hell (Matthew 16:18) not cowering behind financial sanctions.

4) We should not be a reactionary people, we are to confront culture and assault stop it dead in its tracks. Boycotts are a response, where is this American Family Association and why are they not spreading the gospel of the Risen Lord Jesus Christ to these homosexuals? Where is the love that Christ commands of us (Matthew 22:37-39)? (I want to point out that I am not condoning homosexuality, I recognize it as sin no greater than my own and certainly no greater than the cleansing blood of Christ)

5) What is the overall goal of the boycott anyway? So McDonald's takes away its giving to Homosexual affairs, the heart issue has not changed there will still be homosexuals in America and the World. In fact I think McDonald's is doing a better job of showing love and compassion to Homosexuals than majority of Christ's Church in America! McDonald's is peddling fried potatoes and soggy burgers, and we are the Church of the Immortal Lord!

6) This boycott can even be construed as a direct violation of scripture itself, because American Family Association wants McDonald's to be neutral in the culture wars, I would direct them to Rev. 3:14-21.

So those are my six points of response, kudos to those who read my rants

jeff said...

For the record, I'd just like to say that I don't go to McDonald's anyway. Having said that, I have to agree with the idea that boycotts usually end up with the boycotters made to look silly.

If the need arises for me to eat on the run, I'll eat surely the most blessed of take out food - the pepperoni roll, or a slice of pizza.

Do you guys have pizza out in KS? ;)

PS - aligirl - where did you get that info on starbucks? If it's true, I want to pass it along to my family.

AliGirl said...

Well, I'm going to have to check where my hubby got his info, because all I can find on the internet is that Starbucks is a "matching gift company" with Planned Parenthood, meaning the company encourages its employees and customers to donate and Starbucks will match the donation.

However, there's also a large uproar over the franchise's support of gay-pride parades, and lately "The way I see it" quotes on Starbucks' cups that are incredibly anti-God and pro-gay, etc. Example:
"Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside ourselves for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure."

The quote was written by Bill Schell, a Starbucks customer from London, Ontario, Canada, and printed on thousands of cups.

I agree with Rick, that one cannot in reality boycott every company that has sinful owners, but the fact that it's happening will at least show people in the public sphere that not everyone tolerates sin (soooo not politically correct). McDonald's is being quite flamboyant (yes, I went there) about their convictions, and if they go uncontested publicly, it will appear that to there's no opposition to gay-pride. I know that appearances aren't everything, but in such God-fearing places such as politics and media, :) they are.

I'm not saying I'm going to lead the effort for the AFA or anything, but I'm glad someone's making a little noise. Just to them know people care. :)

Reepicheep said...

Very good comments. I agree with you all :)

barnezy said...

Boycotting McDonalds is one thing, but I have a feeling that the church would have a very hard time boycotting Starbucks. If I am correct, not only does Starbucks promote the homosexual agenda as well, but donates an estimated 10-12% of its revenue to abortion clinics throughout the United States. If thats not an agenda, what is? If I didn't paint it obvious enough.... Starbucks isn't exactly for God, in fact they have allowed "free-thinking" individuals to express their dis-belief in God by printing it on the side of their cups. I love me a Starbucks every now and then, but there are many people who probably fund an entire abortion with their yearly Starbucks fix. If Christians stopped drinking Starbucks, we'd close down thousands of stores overnight instead of funding the deaths of over 50,000 lives a year. Chew on that one. Now... Looks like I'm eating at Wendy's for a while.

barnezy said...

I just noticed my wife commented on this.... HA HA HA, Ali it's 12%, quit trying to make Starbucks look bad.

Frontier Forest said...

Sure glad to be back from vacation! I was refreshed in the mountains, and the grandkids blessed to socks off me, but sure having “Tony Blog Withdrawals!” Very stimulating and excellent comments indeed! Really creates a desire within me to make any thoughts about future boycotts, “Captive and obedient unto Christ!”

Anonymous said...

Sorry I'm a bit late chiming in here, but here goes. There have been some good and not so good points made here. Bottom line is that we have a responsibility as stewards and servants of the Lord to choose where and how we use HIS funds. We are blessed to live in a nation that we can do this. Many don't have that choice.

If an organization openly attacks what God calls us to build, support or fight for, then we have a responsibility before Him alone to make the hard choices.

How difficult is it to choose not to attend a movie or buy a product because of the choices that a manufacturer has made? How difficult is it to tell our children the reasons we do not shop or eat at a location because of what they have chosen to support or attack? What a golden opportunity for discipleship?! How weak or selfish are we? How much has convenience become the most powerful driver in our lives? Is God who he says He is? Does He call us to obedience and stewardship to His word? How weak we really are that we question a minor battle in a situation that the offender has openly and defiantly thrown down the gauntlet and even slandered our God? Is there a David in the church for this pathetic little processed beef and fries Goliath?

It is tough. It does take discipline, a humble heart and the desire to search the scriptures for how we should live. But isn't that why we are here?

See a much better reply than mine the Pearcy Report: