Saturday, August 23, 2008

Joe Biden- A smart choice for Obama

Joe Biden for Vice President is a very smart political choice for Barack Obama.

Biden has everything Obama lacks- longevity in the Senate, congressional connections, foreign relations experience (Chairman of Foreign Relations committee), extensive judiciary committee involvement and a reputation for being a "moderate" liberal. Remind me again what Obama has besides an ambiguous "change" platform? Well, now he has Joe Biden who is more qualified to be president than he is. Make no mistake- Biden will make a McCain presidential bid much more difficult. There may be no member of Congress seen as more accomplished and well-networked than Joe Biden. In debate Biden is sharp as a tack. He has been around congressional dealings for six terms and knows how things work in Washington.

Interestingly, the Republican counterpart to Biden is probably John McCain. McCain is similarly experienced and connected, though not as able in debate. Who will McCain pick as his running mate? Most agree McCain will pick someone quite a bit younger than himself figuring that person might be the 2012 Republican nominee for president (since McCain will be 76 at that time). There are not too many young Republican leaders who can take on Biden in debate.

Biden brings a legitimacy to the Obama ticket- a smart choice for VP.


Zach said...

I think you're overestimating Plugs Biden. Yes, he speaks well on occasion, but he's known just as much for his gaffes and inane rhetorical rambles as he is for his occasional brilliance. Kind of like an older, kookier version of Obama.

And despite what CNN will report, I think Biden's cultural Catholicism will hurt the Obama ticket in the end. Since his election (and especially since his US visit), Pope Benedict has emboldened the American bishops to take (long overdue) action against pro-abortion rights "Catholic" politicians (see our own Abp. Naumann's recent action against Sabelius).

I predict that Biden's addition to the ticket will be seen as a slap in the face to Catholics, who as a group were already trending heavily toward McCain.

If we're looking for a Republican veep who can match up well with Biden in the debates, I think Romney is our man.

Reepicheep said...

Sorry Zach, I disagree. I don't think most RC's care that much. You may be an exception. The ones I grew up with are ecstatic about Biden.

Romney? Please no.

Roger Mann said...

My bet is that McCain will pick Romney, who is more than capable of handling the "older, kookier version of Obama" in debate! :-)

The combined arrogance of an Obama/Biden ticket is going to be fun to watch in action. The Republicans will have a constant stream of gaffes and wacky statements at the ready! I'm just glad that the "first clean, good looking, articulate black guy to run for President" (or something like that) was able to overlook such statements and picked Joe Biden. Watch out, the fun is about to start!

Rick Calohan said...


Joe “With all kidding aside” Biden shows me God is sovereign in all matters. First you may have been what 17 when 1988 rolled around probably into deep into your Metlalica, Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, MC Hammer and Run DMC phase when the 1988 election rolled around, as Ricky Bobby would say, “with no disrespect” we are talking about Joe “Plagiarizing Kinnock” Biden .

As Rush reported last Wednesday, from a 1988 Biden for President ad.

“The White House isn't the place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power, war and peace, and the economic future of the next generation. A president has got to know the territory. Joe Biden sees the presidency as a pulpit from which America sets an example for the world. He believes that developing nations once saw America as more than a place. They saw us as an idea, a goal to reach for. He knows they lost confidence in us, that he they see us losing our way, our resolve, our ideals. Joe Biden thinks it's time to remind the world of what America stands for: freedom, equality, justice, opportunity.”

Umn, even though I was pinko commie liberal Democrat in uniform serving in Korea then I was not for Joe Biden, I was for someone even more sinister Jessie “Keep hope alive cuz Jessie gonna win!” Jackson.

Now, in hindsight I can see America has lost it way since Reagan the greatest President this country has ever had. Yes I said it, Reagan was the greatest President of the United States. Now we have Dumb and Dumber on one side, and Flip and Flop on the other. I think with McCain down by 7 in Michigan he will pick Romney.

All kidding aside, just for your readers who may not be familiar with Mr. Biden here are some wonderful quotes from Mr. Joe “Plagiarizing Kinnock” Biden found at National Review on Line

On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

Check it out the link on what he says about Iraq and Obama.

I’m Rick Calohan and I approve this message.

Rick Calohan said...

A correction to my earlier post, Ricky Bobby did not say with “with no disrespect” as my wife has pointed out he said, “…with all due respect, and remember I'm sayin' it with all due respect….”

I’m Rick Calohan and I approve this correction.

Reepicheep said...

Rick,you're way off, sorry buddy: I was never in a MC Hammer phase. Come on now. You're damaging your credibility.

Zach said...

Tony, of course this is one of those "we'll see" things, but the better Catholics have gotten to know Obama, the less they've liked him.

As the BAIPA controversy has hit the fan, McCain has opened a 9-point lead among Catholics in the latest Zogby poll. That's up from the 5-point Catholic advantage that Bush enjoyed in 2004 (over "Catholic" Kerry), which was up from the 4-point defeat that he endured in 2000.

Of course, that doesn't take into account the Biden factor, but those RC's who do pay attention have been preparing for this possibility. The "Catholics Against Biden" blog launched before 9 o'clock yesterday:

By the way, MC Hammer rocks. :)

Reepicheep said...

I hope you're right and admit to being skewed by my RC upbringing and assocation with "catholics" who were more pro-Union than pro-life, if you know what I mean.

Rick Calohan said...

Tony “…with all due respect, and remember I'm sayin' it with all due respect….”when it comes to my street cred "U Can't Touch This", cuz I’m “Too Legit to Quit.” However, Rap was never my scene or my bag with the exception of Will Smith. Also, the era between October 17,1985-March 30,1992, I was carrying an M-16. From September 23, 1987 – March 30, 1992, I was the lone supply clerk that kept the North Koreans from crossing over the DMZ in the land of the Frozen Chosen, Korea, so that may explain my lack of knowledge of any dance, hip hop, and rap music that was a blur for me. Besides I was up to my knees in a bar room in Itaewon, Seoul, Korea watching the first Gulf War on CNN. So when is VH-1 doing a where are they now behind the music on Culby 17 Patriarchs?

Jim said...

I disagree also, I think Biden was a poor pick for Obama. Biden has the musty old smell of the Democratic establishment, while Obama offered himself as a breath of fresh air. Plus, it's a poke in the eye to the Clinton supporters.

Reepicheep said...

Just as McCain's "pro life" banter at Rick Warren's church was meant to settle the evangelical votership, so also is the choice of Biden meant to quell the concerned old school democrats.

Obviously committed Republicans (like a bunch of you guys) aren't going to be impressed with the choice of Biden. You're not the concern of the DNC. The concern is the huge group of undecided voters.

I say Biden helps Obama with them. If Romney is the Repub. VP, he'll get spanked by Biden in debate.

Frontier Forest said...

I agree, Biden was the logical and wise pick. (Notice I didn’t say “choice”) Things are going to get very interesting at the DNC. Wonder what part and how much slick Willie is going to pay, to play? Still some might bitter feelings in the Clinton camp and I just bet some of this anger emerges on the Denver floor

Jim said...

I didn't say that Biden was a poor choice because I disagree with Biden on policy grounds. I think he's a poor choice in terms of maximizing Obama's chances at winning the election.

There's room to debate that, to be sure, but it's not obvious that Biden is better than a number of the other Democratic names being bantied about.

I suspect that if Obama would have selected Hillary Clinton as his running, that the election would have been in the bag for him.

I think there's a real opening for McCain to take advantage of the opening Obama left him here if McCain chooses to run with a woman as his Veep.

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